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	<title>Comments on: Was Microsoft Right To Ban Pirates From Xbox Live?</title>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1779</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand your question. You basically just said the same thing as me.

Banning the box is good because one box can have any number of live accounts. Therefore taking out 1 live account on a box and leaving all the rest is pointless. Also, taking out the only 1 live account on a modified box is pointless because it takes the user about 4 seconds to set up a new one and continue playing pirated games.

Take the box off the Live service and it doesn&#039;t matter how many accounts were on it and how many new ones the user sets up, they still aren&#039;t going to get online with it.

You seem to be getting confused with how it works - &quot;If they faound the bok had modified files on the first xbox account whats to stop them from finding out you the same modified xbox on your new account&quot;. Well, if you use the same modified xbox on a new account, the box is still banned from live, so it makes no difference. That&#039;s why it is more effective to ban the box and not the account.

&quot;After awhile people wouldn’t get X-box’s if its so expensive and your shit will break&quot;. Exactly. You&#039;ll get fed up of buying new XBoxes and just stop modifying them.

The article was about Microsoft being right or wrong in banning the boxes. The answer (in my oppinion) is that they were right, for all of the reasons I listed above. Your counter argument seems to be that they were wrong because it stops people pirating games, but that was their intention in the first place. I&#039;m not saying it isn&#039;t bad for the pirate, of course it is. That was their aim all along, so in fact they were right to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand your question. You basically just said the same thing as me.</p>
<p>Banning the box is good because one box can have any number of live accounts. Therefore taking out 1 live account on a box and leaving all the rest is pointless. Also, taking out the only 1 live account on a modified box is pointless because it takes the user about 4 seconds to set up a new one and continue playing pirated games.</p>
<p>Take the box off the Live service and it doesn&#8217;t matter how many accounts were on it and how many new ones the user sets up, they still aren&#8217;t going to get online with it.</p>
<p>You seem to be getting confused with how it works &#8211; &#8220;If they faound the bok had modified files on the first xbox account whats to stop them from finding out you the same modified xbox on your new account&#8221;. Well, if you use the same modified xbox on a new account, the box is still banned from live, so it makes no difference. That&#8217;s why it is more effective to ban the box and not the account.</p>
<p>&#8220;After awhile people wouldn’t get X-box’s if its so expensive and your shit will break&#8221;. Exactly. You&#8217;ll get fed up of buying new XBoxes and just stop modifying them.</p>
<p>The article was about Microsoft being right or wrong in banning the boxes. The answer (in my oppinion) is that they were right, for all of the reasons I listed above. Your counter argument seems to be that they were wrong because it stops people pirating games, but that was their intention in the first place. I&#8217;m not saying it isn&#8217;t bad for the pirate, of course it is. That was their aim all along, so in fact they were right to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1774</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is banning the box good.  Obviously banning thier live account is better. If they faound the bok had modified files on the first xbox account whats to stop them from finding out you the same modified xbox on your new account.  you got to think about this shit.  After awhile people wouldn&#039;t get X-box&#039;s if its so expensive and your shit will break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is banning the box good.  Obviously banning thier live account is better. If they faound the bok had modified files on the first xbox account whats to stop them from finding out you the same modified xbox on your new account.  you got to think about this shit.  After awhile people wouldn&#8217;t get X-box&#8217;s if its so expensive and your shit will break.</p>
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		<title>By: Spind</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Spind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banning the console itself is rude and direct to the point but i guess still M$ has the right to do it.

What is indeed (in my opinion) over the line that M$ damages YOUR hardware as if the banning from XBL wasnt enough punishment. 

And yes it will generate a bit more of income for them, but what is the reason that the 360 is still on competition in the first place?
Because it can be modified, among other reasons of course but in my opinion the one i just said is the one with most weight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning the console itself is rude and direct to the point but i guess still M$ has the right to do it.</p>
<p>What is indeed (in my opinion) over the line that M$ damages YOUR hardware as if the banning from XBL wasnt enough punishment. </p>
<p>And yes it will generate a bit more of income for them, but what is the reason that the 360 is still on competition in the first place?<br />
Because it can be modified, among other reasons of course but in my opinion the one i just said is the one with most weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1759</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Banning their live account makes no sense. Banning consoles is entirely the right way to go about it. If the console is modified and then MS ban the user from xbox live - the console is still modified, so they can just set up a new account and make the initial banning a pointless exercise. Also, let&#039;s say that I share a console with my brother/son etc and I decide to modify it. My brother/son/whoever else goes on XBL and MS detect a modified console and ban the user account. This sounds a bit similar to what we are all complaining about with the whole 3 strikes thing - how can you punish multiple people for the sole actions of one? Simple: you can&#039;t. What you can do, though, is ban the box. Sure that punishes everyone, but it&#039;s not as permanent as banning the account, because you can go and get another console and presto - back online.

I got my console banned during this effort as well. Another plus point for MS is that banning sells more consoles, because people will have to go out and buy a new one. However, what&#039;s more likely to happen is that people will go and buy a new console, wait a few months, RROD their banned console so they can claim a new one from the store under the other console&#039;s warranty (you can force 3 red rings by removing the thermal paste from the cpu/gpu). Now they have 2 consoles. They can either sell one to recoup some of the money (not like they haven&#039;t already saved enough on games to cover the new console anyway), or they will mod one and leave the other - that way in the future if one gets banned they can still play legit games online with the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banning their live account makes no sense. Banning consoles is entirely the right way to go about it. If the console is modified and then MS ban the user from xbox live &#8211; the console is still modified, so they can just set up a new account and make the initial banning a pointless exercise. Also, let&#8217;s say that I share a console with my brother/son etc and I decide to modify it. My brother/son/whoever else goes on XBL and MS detect a modified console and ban the user account. This sounds a bit similar to what we are all complaining about with the whole 3 strikes thing &#8211; how can you punish multiple people for the sole actions of one? Simple: you can&#8217;t. What you can do, though, is ban the box. Sure that punishes everyone, but it&#8217;s not as permanent as banning the account, because you can go and get another console and presto &#8211; back online.</p>
<p>I got my console banned during this effort as well. Another plus point for MS is that banning sells more consoles, because people will have to go out and buy a new one. However, what&#8217;s more likely to happen is that people will go and buy a new console, wait a few months, RROD their banned console so they can claim a new one from the store under the other console&#8217;s warranty (you can force 3 red rings by removing the thermal paste from the cpu/gpu). Now they have 2 consoles. They can either sell one to recoup some of the money (not like they haven&#8217;t already saved enough on games to cover the new console anyway), or they will mod one and leave the other &#8211; that way in the future if one gets banned they can still play legit games online with the other.</p>
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		<title>By: plague year</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1757</link>
		<dc:creator>plague year</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone get the fuck over it. If you don&#039;t like something, don&#039;t fucking buy it. Well I did forget, this is the internet where everyone just bitches all day. Get the fuck over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone get the fuck over it. If you don&#8217;t like something, don&#8217;t fucking buy it. Well I did forget, this is the internet where everyone just bitches all day. Get the fuck over it.</p>
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		<title>By: I BlankZ I</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>I BlankZ I</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy everyone! Buy a Ps3, it has free online services, trophies, and pretty much everything else the 360 has plus more. M$ is getting wayyyyy tp picky and expensive with all the money they already have. Fuck them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy everyone! Buy a Ps3, it has free online services, trophies, and pretty much everything else the 360 has plus more. M$ is getting wayyyyy tp picky and expensive with all the money they already have. Fuck them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergei Zadoyan</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergei Zadoyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know whats fucking cheap? 570 dollars for my elite consle, 75 dollars a game, 40 dollars for a charger pack which is exhausted after one year, 30 dollars for a new mike because the one they give you is shit, 70 dollars for xbox live anually, 150 dollars to ship my red ringed xbox because they produced a faulty machine and decided to sell it. Shut the fuck up you stupid pussy bitch and grow a fucking brain your getting husstled hard out of your money and your just watching like a stupid fucking donkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know whats fucking cheap? 570 dollars for my elite consle, 75 dollars a game, 40 dollars for a charger pack which is exhausted after one year, 30 dollars for a new mike because the one they give you is shit, 70 dollars for xbox live anually, 150 dollars to ship my red ringed xbox because they produced a faulty machine and decided to sell it. Shut the fuck up you stupid pussy bitch and grow a fucking brain your getting husstled hard out of your money and your just watching like a stupid fucking donkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Gmkimbel93</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>Gmkimbel93</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spind when natal comes out Microsoft will keep it on the 360 for a month or a year earn as much as possible with more people buying the system then they are going to come out with a new system. To maximize profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spind when natal comes out Microsoft will keep it on the 360 for a month or a year earn as much as possible with more people buying the system then they are going to come out with a new system. To maximize profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Spind</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>Spind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol... as always M$, but that of not letting install games on your HDD thats going too far in my opinion 

Whats next? when finally the natal proyect comes out (if it does come out that is)
if you have cf M$ will disable its functionality of capturing your moves? lol...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230; as always M$, but that of not letting install games on your HDD thats going too far in my opinion </p>
<p>Whats next? when finally the natal proyect comes out (if it does come out that is)<br />
if you have cf M$ will disable its functionality of capturing your moves? lol&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ledgy</title>
		<link>http://freakbits.com/was-microsoft-right-to-ban-pirates-from-xbox-live-1112#comment-1716</link>
		<dc:creator>Ledgy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 04:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft IS touching your hardware. My 120gb HD wont work on my banned console or any other HD&#039;s.

Its the long arm of M$ reaching into your home which is a bit over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft IS touching your hardware. My 120gb HD wont work on my banned console or any other HD&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Its the long arm of M$ reaching into your home which is a bit over the top.</p>
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